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Google's Secret Weapon
Author’s note
This one was the beginning of me being sucked into Google myself. It was the interns that started it. I used to convince them all to work at Amazon, and then one day, they started declining me. I dug into it, and this post was my first report. I wound up joining Google around six months later.
Everything I said about Google in this post is now true of Anthropic in 2026, except happening to an even more intense degree.
AI Notes
Written from inside Amazon recruiting after a UW campus trip where the candidate conversations have left Steve rattled. The piece begins as "How to Win Big at Recruiting" — tactical bullet points on info sessions, mentoring programs, treating interns well — and abandons that title in the middle, because the UW candidates have just told him that Google is getting about three times the UW hires Amazon is, and that Google is the company the best programmers want. Steve's central claim: Google has turned recruiting into a network effect. It's not a difference in magnitude any more, it's a difference in kind. "Smart people now make the pilgrimage to Google, and Google spends the bulk of their time turning great people away." The piece walks through the touch-points where companies leak their real culture — info sessions, interns who go back to school and trash you, mentoring questions every candidate asks first — and concludes that once a feedback loop like Google's is spinning, a few recruiting "tips" aren't going to close the gap.
An early statement of something most engineering organisations have since learned and few have acted on: recruiting is a flywheel, and at Google's scale it stops being recruiting at all.
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Companion piece, same year. Delphi is about what Google is building; Secret Weapon is about how they are recruiting the people to build it.
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Get That Job at Google
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2005
A Noogler's View of Google
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From the peanut gallery
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You forgot to put the phone number for Google's Kirkland office ;)
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Just to comment on internships and Amazon vs. Microsoft. I interned with both companies before I came here fulltime. I would say that Microsoft is better at wining and dining interns, but Amazon had cooler stuff to work on.
At Microsoft you feel very very small. You might be the guy who owns one button on a toolbar. At Amazon I got to rewrite an entire piece of our procurement pipeline that's still in use today. So this is how Amazon is better, and it's what ultimately got me to work here full time.
In every other way the Microsoft internship is better. They pay interns more. They feed them more. They have more activities for them to do. They constantly have tech talks about major upcoming pieces of technology or with giants of the industry. They give them memberships to the Pro Club. And they require them to pay less for their housing.
The most important thing they do is help them get a rental car for their entire internship. Most interns don't have a car and are too young to get a rental car on their own for a decent price. For about $200 a month I was able to split a fully insured rental car with my two roommates for three months. This allowed us to have fun doing different things in the area every weekend like going hiking, skydiving, paintballing, etc.
Amazon lets interns get a rental car for two weekends. Other people may have already used their rentals so it's hard to coordinate any trips with more than one car full of people. There might be one trip up to Vancouver, but for the rest of the time our interns are stranded in Bell Town. This especially bad when it comes to grocery shopping. They all have to take a bus up to Queen Anne for groceries, which is no fun.
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Another thing that Google is doing is using the Press (newspapers) well about their need for really smart people and how they will work on cool features.
When we announced that we were going to hire more SDE's it got lost in can Amazon afford it?
I think another way to reach candidates is to use the press, articles in magazines, etc. When we go on recruiting trips does it show up in the local newspaper that we are in town looking to hire? Even if a person does not show up for the recruiting event an impression has been left that we too are looking for smart folks to solve big technical problems.
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Google also advertises in a select number of publications — for example, mensa. But there advertisements are puzzles and the people who can solve them and submit their resume get interviews. Pretty clever if you ask me.
In addition, they have a whole different org structure, where all managers are engineers. They also have a very flat organization where people work in teams and instead of being held accountable by one person (their manager) they are held accountable by their peers.
Steve, this is a very insightful analysis of our recruiting vis-a-vis Google. To this I would only add that you are completely correct about the importance of Google's "network effect" recruiting. This is especially true at my alma mater, Stanford—the proportion of Googlers with Stanford backgrounds is so high, it's almost incestuous. (Example: I had the opportunity to lunch in the Google cafeteria this summer, and not only did I see familiar faces, I had a former student whom I hadn't recognized come up to me and thank me for having been his operating systems TA.) All these Googlers have friends who are still Stanford CS students — and you can bet all of them are telling their friends how awesome it is to work at Google (I have yet to find anyone who's unhappy working there). All this positive feedback within the social network carries a lot of weight, perhaps more weight than any amount of work by a recruiting team could ever carry.
— Lim · December 10, 2004 06:47 AM